tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642469491548710234.post8380831399985507021..comments2020-08-10T17:37:08.846-04:00Comments on Tifrosh Min Hatzibur: More to tznuis than meets the eyeAztecQueen2000http://www.blogger.com/profile/09371826731550331938noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642469491548710234.post-56607216439453446032012-03-01T12:20:45.245-05:002012-03-01T12:20:45.245-05:00First of all, she's not dumb. Misguided and a...First of all, she's not dumb. Misguided and a trifle brainwashed, but not dumb.<br />Secondly, look at the time frame. The Mishnah Berurah was written after WWI--right before the dawn of the flapper. Could it be, perhaps, that the Chofetz Chaim was writing as a reaction to the time? He's only human.AztecQueen2000https://www.blogger.com/profile/09371826731550331938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642469491548710234.post-33996837116009506292012-03-01T11:45:30.365-05:002012-03-01T11:45:30.365-05:00Is this your dumb friend again?
First, you have to...Is this your dumb friend again?<br />First, you have to be careful about saying something is "just" from the Mishnah Berurah. There is very little in there that isn't copiously references from earlier sources. The Chofetz Chayim may have chosen some sources and not others or arranged his presentation in a specific way to make a point but almost everything in there dates up to several centuries back.<br />Secondly, real tznius isn't about the length of your skirt as much as it is not being ostentatious. A $5000 ball gown that meets minimum length criteria is just as untznius as a miniskirt.<br />Third, there is an article by Rav Hershel Schechter on line you might be interested in. He proposes that in general both men and women are supposed to be tzinus, ie shying the public eye, working quietly in the background without drawing attention to onself. However, since God commanded men to appear publicly when praying that overrides the whole "sit back in the corner" thing. However he sees that as the exception which means the rest of the time men should also be quiet and out of sight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642469491548710234.post-11459616691934797912012-03-01T01:40:00.435-05:002012-03-01T01:40:00.435-05:00That was a response to this line, "She mentio...That was a response to this line, "She mentioned that women have a yetzer hara not to be tzniusdik the way men have a yetzer hara not to learn."Michaltastikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358698308334285154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6642469491548710234.post-4564123969316627712012-03-01T01:38:44.334-05:002012-03-01T01:38:44.334-05:00Women don't WANT to dress like whores. Men pre...Women don't WANT to dress like whores. Men pressure us into doing it FOR THEM!!!!Michaltastikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358698308334285154noreply@blogger.com